On This Episode
Saul Kaplan and Dave Gray, founder of XPLANE, discuss the concept of liminal thinking: The art of creating change by understanding, shaping, and reframing your own beliefs.

Dave Gray founded the strategic design consultancy XPLANE, and co-founded Boardthing, a collaboration platform for distributed teams. He has worked with many of the world’s largest companies, as well as mid-sized businesses, startups, executives, and individuals. Gray’s latest book is Liminal Thinking: Create The Change You Want By Changing The Way You Think. He is also author of two books on design, change, and innovation: Gamestorming: A Playbook For Innovators, Rule-Breakers, and Changemakers, and The Connected Company.

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